TLHines.com: Mr. Rotramel, thanks for agreeing to talk with us. Let's start with the basics: What’s the central theme of your campaign?
Andrew Rotramel: The central theme of my campaign is to get me elected. Isn't that true with all candidates?
TL: For most, I suppose. Some candidates seem to do it for the political groupies. You don’t have any groupies, do you?
AR: Groupies? Nobody told me about groupies. I will have to ask my wife if she's seen any.
TL: Good one. So why are you running?
AR: I am running because you only had to fill out two forms and send them to the FEC.
TL: What’s the single most important issue to you?
AR: Redoing/updating the constitution.
TL: Okay, that’s no trivial matter. What, specifically, needs to be updated? What needs to be changed?
AR: You can find out all about it at my web site, but specifically, I think we need a new bill of rights: rights to address the physical needs of the people, rights to address the emotional needs of the people, rights to address the spiritual needs of the people, rights to address the people's need to civil rights and human dignity, and a few other miscellaneous rights.
I would also have some national goals built into the Constitution, such as exploring space.
TL: What will be your first official act as President?
AR: There would be several:
1. Commute all federal death sentences to something else;
2. Pardon a whole bunch of people, including Leonard Peltier;
3. Replace the military's "don't ask, don't tell" with a policy of non-discrimination against gays;
4. Have a nice long bath in the presidential tub.
TL: And are you a bubble bath kind of President, or do you just use a washcloth and soap? Maybe just soap?
AR: By definition, a "nice long bath" requires some bubbles. I mean soap bubbles, not Bubbles LaGrand the dancer. LOL
TL: Oookaaay. So what are you planning to do to set yourself apart from the traditional two-party candidates?
AR: You mean that I have to do more than run as a fringe candidate?
TL: Good point. What I really meant was: how will you get publicity and get noticed? What will you do to attract people to your campaign?
AR: I am not currently trying to get publicity and get noticed. The only campaigning I am doing is having a web site.
TL: We've exchanged a number of emails, and I've noticed you use Tom Clancy quotes in your signature. Are you a Clancy fan? Any chance Clancy might get a position in your administration?
AR: I am not a Tom Clancy fan, and have never read any of his books. I got the quote from a list I belong to.
TL: You’ve said you’d pick Noam Chomsky as National Security Advisor. Have you picked a running mate?
AR: I have not considered that yet. Do you think I should?
TL There's always Tom Clancy.
AR: Real funny.
TL: At your web site, you want immediate recognition of a Palestinian State, and $5 billion in annual aid to the Palestinian people. Suffice to say you aren’t counting on Jewish people as one of your core constituencies.
AR: Correct. But, I think my plan might actually lead to peace in that part of the world.
TL: You also advocate legalization of drugs and prostitution. At the very least, folks should have a good time during your administration.
AR: Sorry, but that is not a logical conclusion. I see benefits to legalizing drugs and prostitution, mostly we can generate sales tax revenue, put some health and safety regulations in place, cut the prison population, and redirect law enforcement resources elsewhere. None of this means that I would approve of using drugs or prostitution by my people.
TL: So you don't think legalizing the behavior condones it?
AR: Acceptance does not always mean approval.
TL: What gave you the idea to run for President in the first place?
AR: You have already asked a version of this question, but I don't mind answering again. I heard a story on NPR's National Public Radio during the 2000 election. I learned that you only have to submit two forms to the FEC. If it is that easy, with no fee, why not?
TL: Why not, indeed?
TLHines.com: Welcome to the worldwide corporate headquarters of TLHines.com, Mr. Snow. Sit down, make yourself comfortable, and let’s get started. First up: Why are you running for President?
Dan Snow: The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer ... that will eventually cause a revolution. Poor people have a perfect record of winning all revolutions in the past; I want to avoid this clash if possible.
TL: But for you, it’s not just about politics. You have a personal stake in this race as well, and it’s all about bassfishing. Tell us about it.
DS: I have been in a toe to toe, eyeball to eyeball, battle with the Bush family for more than 20 years. The details are on my web site at dansnow2004.com under "Snow v Bush Family.” Mostly my battles have been with the elder Bush over bass fishing in Cuba. Bush wanted that business for his crony Ray Scott; they tried to steal my business and did. As I say on my website, I have already forgiven them and told them so.
TL: So have you ever had any direct communication with the Bush family about this whole Cuban bass fishing issue?
DS: Yes: in US courts. There have been 17 court cases over travel to Cuba; I was the subject of 15 of those cases. As a result, I am the free world's only convicted "travel felon.” There have been no other such cases since 1988; does that tell you anything?
TL: Okay, so let’s say you get the chance to confront George W. Bush--say, in a debate. What would you say?
DS: I would ask him to resign. He has made most of the world hate us and pretty much destroyed everything that was once great about this country. I would tell him that I am suggesting a March on Washington DC of 10 million people and urge them to stay at the White House until he resigns or is impeached.
TL: What if it came to more than mere words? You’re a bass fisherman and an outdoorsy kinda guy--I bet you could take him. What do you think: you and George W. Bush, mano y mano?
DS: I am an old US Marine. I exceled in every sport I ever played. Over the years, a number of people have said they were going to kick my butt. None ever did. George Bush should go back to cheerleading; I have nothing kind to say about people like him. He is a "deserter,” an alcoholic and a druggie. He was a horrible governor and took Texas straight to the bottom in every measurable category. Why would anyone think it would be any other way if he became President? This man should never have been allowed to become President of this once-great country. He simply is not qualified in any way. He is little more than a lap dog for the rich.
TL: So what will be your first official act as President?
DS: Enroll all Americans (100%) on the very same health insurance and retirement programs that the White House and the Congress voted for themselves. Second, start the American troops home from Iraq on day two of my Administration. Iraqis would vote on day one.
TL: Wouldn’t such sudden and drastic changes lead to more instability in Iraq? Pulling the troops and instituting democratic elections in one fell swoop seems ambitious.
DS: The pull-out of Iraq might lead to some instability in the region. There is neither stability nor democracy in Iraq, and there never will be: this mess gets worse by the day. In one day recently, 47 Iraqis (were) killed. Another day, more than 50 killed. About a week before that more than 100 killed. Some 540 Americans have died and thousands have been seriously injured. About 300,000 Iraq civilians and troops are already dead ... they are people too! I wonder how GOD would judge this war.
The USA-sponsored sanctions killed more than 1.35 million Iraqis (500,000 were children under age 5). The families of these people hate us and always will. If one dies by a smart bomb that was not smart enough, and another dies because sanctions denied medicines and adequate food supplies, what’s the difference? George W. Bush and his flunkies should be on trial in the World Court for: 1) Crimes against Humanity; 2) War Crimes; and 3) Genocide. As President, I will make sure that happens.
TL: So what sets you apart from the traditional two-party candidates?
DS: If all these things listed here will not set me apart from Democrats and Republicans....nothing will:
Change everything in America (100%). I don't think anything is going right except life for the rich and powerful. I would end the IRS on day one, end all tax cuts for the rich, institute a national consumption tax, end the military as we know it today and go back to self-financed militias (just like the Constitution calls for), insure every American, give a retirement program that allows one to retire, institute a livable wage that will end all poverty in America, institute a 32 hour work week (4 weeks vacation), no more two family members having to work, end homelessness, tear down slums and barrios, make school teachers, nurses, police and firemen the best paying jobs, create 16 million jobs by fixing all highways, bridges, tunnels, etc., end sanctions on 75 nations, make Mom & Pop stores the most important businesses, require Wal-Mart types to finance those kinds of business, make life "Hell" for those in big business who outsource American jobs, end NAFTA, IMF, WTO and any other organization that supports the New World Order or Globalization, release all non-violent prisoners, legalize drugs less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, end the CIA, end the FED, close most other government agencies, allow everyone over 16 to vote, end registration, end lobbyists, end the appointment of Federal Judges, institute campaign reform (no more "fat cats" and "lobbyist" buying the elections), make college free, teach all Americans to read and write and lots more. It’s all on my web site: dansnow2004.com.
TL: That’s an ambitious set of ideas. I do notice you talk about ending government agencies, returning to self-financed militias, and other themes. Those are the kinds of things we hear from those extreme right-wing whackos who hole up in places like Montana and Idaho. Any concerns about getting lumped in with them?
DS: The Constitution calls for a "militia," and not an army of aggression that can be sent halfway around the world to fight wars based on lies.....and hasn't just about every war since Vietnam and including Vietnam been a war of lies?
There is nothing in the Constitution that calls for an IRS...it is 17,000 pages of tax cuts and breaks for the rich and powerful--a document that no one understands. DUMP IT!
As I say on my website, I don't seek the votes of happy Democrats or Republicans. Anyone who doesn't like what he or she is reading should stop reading and vote for someone else.
TL: Since we’re talking about your web site, you mention qualifications. Are you qualified to be America’s next President?
DS: I think so. I have succeeded in everything I have ever done and been the leader of everything I have ever been involved in from the US Marines to sports to business. I have never been a politician, but then again, I have never lost any election for anything I have ever run for ... maybe I could even succeed in politics. Doesn't our Constitution suggest that this nation should be run by average people like you and me? It doesn't mention career politicians.
TL: Legalization of prostitution: discuss.
DS: I would legalize Prostitution because in places like some parts of Nevada and other parts of the world, violent crimes against women and children are down and so is sex related disease. The USA could use more of that.
TL: As I said before, you have som ambitious plans. The big question is: how are you going to pay for everything?
DS: We have an $11 trillion economy. Taxes bring in $2.4 trillion. War gets 20% of those taxes; I will end that part of the economy. Social Security gets 20%; 163 million people are on pay-roll deduction. It would be easy to add the others who do not currently pay that way. Everyone would still pay, only some would pay directly instead of payroll deduction. We are simply going to be distributing that money from a real trust fund, rather than spending it on other items. Medicare, Medicade and Veteran Benefits gets another 20% of the Federal budget. The 43 million Americans who are not currently covered by hospitalization can be insured for about $65 billion. It currently costs taxpayers about 169 billion to NOT cover them ... are we stupid or are we stupid?
Interest on the debt costs about $1 billion per day or $365 billion per year. I would sell enough military bases, military equipment and prisons to pay off most of that Federal debt. The US government owns 40% of the land in America; if the military bases, equpment and prisons won't pay off the debt, I would sell enough of that 40% of the land to pay the rest. That leaves only about 25% of the collected tax revenues to pay for everything else in the government. I would close down most of those useless government agencies, fire all the professional government employees and spend the money only on those things that most Americans think are essential to their well-being.
TL: As you mentioned, you propose dismantling the Department of Defense. In fact, you advocate replacing the Department of Defense with a “Department of Making Friends.” Does this have anything to do with Jennifer Aniston?
DS: A Department of making Friends as opposed to a Department of making Wars.....I don't know much about Jennifer Aniston, but if she prefers making friends over making wars, she might get my vote.
TLHines.com: Mr. Sauter, thanks for participating. Maybe you could start by telling us the central theme of your campaign.
Donald Sauter: Every presidential decision will be decided by majority will.
TL: And why are you running?
DS: I'm not running. I have an idea which people can accept or reject. (Note that if the majority rejects majority rule, we have a major paradox on our hands.)
TL: What's the single most important issue to you?
DS: Ah ha, see? You don't get it! What's most important to me doesn't count for any more than what's most important to anybody else. We would all share the power equally. I have 1/200,000,000 of the power; you have 1/200,000,000 of the power; etc. We would all be, in effect, co-presidents.
But now that that's cleared up, I will tell you the single most important issue to me as a person - not as your ruler. It is justice, or more specifically, the complete lack thereof in this society. You can read about my thoughts on justice on my web site. However, if the majority are perfectly happy with our so-called "system of justice," I would not lift a finger to change it.
TL: Well, Mr. Smartypants, I happen to know that our population is really 292,000,000, so we'd all only have 1/292,000,000 of the power.
DS: I have serious doubts about whether the majority is ready to extend voting rights down to the cradle.
TL: Ouch! I walked into that one, didn't I? Okay, let's say 200,000,000 adult participants. So you'll do whatever the majority of the people want?
DS: That is somewhat sloppily stated. Every presidential action will be dictated by majority will. (Is there an echo in here?)
TL: Yes, the palatial headquarters of TLHines.com are somewhat cavernous. We get that echo comment quite a bit. But back to your idea: you'll do what's determined by majority will, even if it's something you personally disagree with?
DS: Yes.
TL: And how will you determine what the majority wants?
DS: I think you're asking, how do people vote when a presidential action is required? I imagine telephones would do a fine job. Also the internet. If we trust the internet to send money, we can surely trust it to send a vote. If the majority wants inefficient, old-fashioned methods of voting, we could stick with that. But this is really a nuts-and-bolts question that I shouldn't be suckered into unless you've signed off on the fundamental idea of majority rule. There's something much bigger here than getting hung up on rotary dial phones.
TL: Hey, and if it's a 900-number, you could charge for each call, thereby generating revenue: democracy and capitalism in action, all in one big, juicy pie. Whaddya think?
DS: I think it's great. As the Washington Post wrote in 1996, "Sauter would open a 1-900 line for voting on decisions. The toll call, he said, would make the voting system pay for itself and discourage frivolous callers."
TL: Seriously, how would this work? Would people call in for each and every issue separately, or would they maybe call in once a week and be presented with a menu of voting options? "To vote FOR flag burning, press 1; to vote AGAINST flag burning, press 2. To vote FOR declaring war on Albania, press 3; to vote AGAINST declaring war on Albania, press 4."
DS: Ah ah ah! Naughty, naughty! There you go, trying to sucker me into an argument over simple nuts-and-bolts. When they were developing the automobile I'll bet you stood there spluttering, "This thing'll never work! I mean, what're they gonna do about windshield wiper blade refills!??" Send me a signed statement, "I, TL Hines, do agree with all my heart and soul that pure democracy in the executive branch knocks the spots off any power-crazed ol' politician making my decisions for me," and we can start talking about phone menus and web sites and listserves and newspaper columns and radio spots and tv news segments and office chats over the water cooler and... and... and...
TL: How would you determine what should come up for majority vote? Would people have to call in to vote for issues for voting, and ... hey, I smell another major paradox in that.
DS: I'm not proposing any change in the mechanism by which matters come before the president for action. I can envision that once the people get a taste for democracy that the process by which their desires get placed in front of Congress and make their way through Congress will be expedited.
TL: On the surface, it seems interesting, but I can see celebrities, media and others with instant access to a huge number of people being able to skew presidential decisions in their favor. What's to stop Martha Stewart from marshalling the masses to get herself a presidential pardon? That would be a lot more than a 1/200,000,000 share of the power.
DS: If more than half the people think someone should be pardoned, who are you to say he shouldn't be?
TL: Martha Stewart is a she. At least, I think Martha Stewart is a she. You may be on to something there. Anyway, are we really ready for such unbridled democracy? I mean, I like the idea and all, but then I picture the guys with mullets wandering the aisles of Wal-Mart and looking for bottles of Old Spice aftershave. I'm not sure I want them making any presidential decisions.
DS: You'd be making the decisions together.
Do you know how many times I've heard this "But everybody else is stupid!" mantra? Funny thing is, I've never met a single person who said, "But this'll never work - I'm too stupid!" Did you ever stop to think that from the point of view of the other Wal-Mart shoppers, you're an "everybody else"? And not to belabor the Wal-Mart thing, but tell me honestly, how many times, upon walking into the store, do the other shoppers jump in to attack, rob, or even scream at you?
I suspect not too often, but even if you can can honestly answer, "Oh, yes, all the time," you're still not out of the woods. I will then ask, "But is it more than 50 percent of them?" If you can answer that in the affirmative, you still lose. I will say, "If more than 50 percent of the population believes it is good and right to beat up on TL Hines, who am I to say they shouldn't?" (That's not to say, though, that I wouldn't cast my single vote in your favor when a trial comes up.)
TL: Gee, thanks. It's nice to know you're on my side. I'm getting all veklempt.
DS: TL, I detect your sense of humor comes from a totally different universe. You've got to realize that you're talking to someone who doesn't even have a tv. If I'm in a laundromat or jiffy lube waiting room and there is some of that daytime tv playing, there is no describing how miserable it makes me.
TL: I don't think you're alone in that; the stupidity of daytime TV makes me miserable, too. I prefer the much more cerebral primetime programming such as "The Anna Nicole Smith Show" and "Fear Factor."
DS: Anna Nicole Smith? Anna Nicole Smith? Dang, that name almost rings a bell. And what's a Fear Factor?
TL: Well, Martha Stewart may be either a he or a she, but Anna Nicole is more of an it. And "Fear Factor" is a show where they eat cow eyeballs, and rancid intestines, and ... um ... you know, I don't really ever watch "Fear Factor." But on to the next subject. You say you don't want to be a ruler, but in a way, don't we WANT rulers in America? Yeah, we blab about democracy, and power to the people, and all that jazz, but we've demonstrated a fondness for "royal" families in our country: the Kennedys, the Bushes, the Clintons, the Simpsons ...
DS: If you need somebody to make your decisions for you, vote for somebody else. I worked up a slogan for you some years ago: "If you want strong leaders... go back to kindergarten."
TL: If you're not making any decisions on your own, what are you doing? Why would we need you as president?
DS: Anybody with my vision would do. As it stands now, I'm the only show in town.
TL: What led you to this idea initially?
DS: Actually something very specific. I served on a jury in 1989. It was the first time I saw our "justice system" in action. What I saw made me so sick I've never recovered from the experience. I won't go into details here, but I couldn't get it off my mind and one morning I had an epiphany - my simple system of justice without judges, lawyers and lawmakers; just large, randomly selected juries deciding disputes based on common sense and conscience. Then, just thinking so much about majority rule on juries got me thinking about majority rule in government. The thoughts went along two main lines: pure democracy 1) as a desirable end in itself, and 2) as a possible first step on the road toward eliminating government altogether. After all, if government just does what people would do anyhow, why have it? (Of course, if government doesn't do what the people want, the same rhetorical question stands - and even more so. Whoops! either way, it doesn't look good for government!)
TL: So what would be your first official act as President?
DS: Not give a speech, as a first step in dissociating politics from show business.
TL: But what if everyone called your phone lines and said they WANTED you to give a speech? (See? I'm picking up on this majority rule thing.)
DS: If the majority wants a speech, they get a speech. Somehow, I doubt that the majority goes around thinking, "Dang, I really gotta have a presidential speech - gotta have one right now!" Fifty percent of the population didn't even watch the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.
To make your question a little more interesting, you should go for broke: "What if the majority wants you to plow your car into a group of first-graders waiting at a bus stop?"
Again, I will say that you are being ridiculous; that the chances of that happening are so infinitesimal that I don't even think about it.
But you become insistent: "What if? What if?" And I say, look at my contract with the people: If I ever act in opposition to majority will, somebody shoot me. In this example, they would have to shoot me and install a new leader to do what they want.
Simple as that.
TL: Okay, then, you've convinced me. And can I suggest the first issue we put out to a vote?
DS: What would that be?
TL: I think we should exile Jessica Simpson. She bugs the hell out of me.
DS: Who's Jessica Simpson?
TL: She doesn't know the difference between chicken and tuna, for one. Trust me: we'd all be better off with her safely out of the country.
DS: Okay.
Visit Mr. Sauter's web site at http://www.geocities.com/donaldsauter/, which also features this interview in a slightly different edited version. And stay tuned for the next edition of the "Dark Horse Dialogues," posting Friday, February 20, 2004 at www.tlhines.com/darkhorse/.
What are the Dark Horse Dialogues?
The Dark Horse Dialogues are a collection of interviews with longshot presidential candidates: the dark horses. And, as the conversations prove, these candidates definitely aren't the same old nags.
Dialogue #1: Kenneth Oliver Miller
Our first edition of the Dark Horse Dialogues features Kenneth Oliver Miller, a resident of Ambridge, Pennsylvania who's running for president as an independent. And if you think all presidential candidates are sourpusses who can only spew soundbites, Mr. Miller proves otherwise: he was quite the kidder with many of his responses.
At least, we hope he was kidding.
TLHines.com: Mr. Miller, thanks for agreeing to participate in the "Dark Horse Dialogues." Our blog at tlhines.com has about a dozen readers, so this interview could potentially give you exposure to tens of people.
Ken Miller: I would like to answer anything you can throw at me, especially if it might possibly garner 10 votes. That's nine more than I expected--eight more, if I can bribe my mom.
TL: So let's start with the basics. What's the central theme of your presidential campaign? Why are you running?
KM: I guess that what got me started was the fact that I am sick of politicians and their crooked ways. We need someone in office who has no political connections or experience, and that is me.
Before I start to rant, let me make it clear that I think our government is the best in the world. It's just the politicians I have problems with. Besides that, I am hoping for the chance to meet the one and only Jennifer Love Hewitt. I plan on making her my running mate.
TL: Hmmm. "Miller/Love Hewitt" does have a certain bumper sticker appeal to it. Or would it just be "Miller/Hewitt?" Do you know?
KM: I think the bumper sticker would look something like this:
VOTE LOVE HEWITT Vice-President
Kenneth Oliver Miller President
TL: You know, I've been talking to another candidate, and he said something about tapping Ms. Love Hewitt to head up the Office of Homeland Security. You might want to get on the horn and make sure she hasn't committed anything to another candidate.
KM: Well I would like to be able to contact her to confirm her, but I'm hoping she will get word of this from someone who has read something on the internet about my quest. As for the other candidate who wants her on his staff: He is obviously a whacko.
TL: I'm just kidding. I think you're probably the only person who has Ms. Love Hewitt in mind for a staff position. Speaking of which, let's talk about your position on some issues: What's the single most important issue to you?
KM: Probably the epidermis, because it is the only tissue I really know the name of. Oh, you said issue. Sorry.
TL: First rule of interviews: never try to be funnier than the interviewer. Most interviewers have esteem problems, and want to feel they're the funniest people alive. Not me, mind you. I don't have an esteem problem. You don't think I have an esteem problem, do you? Do you?
KM: I don't know how to answer.
TL: Never mind. Back to the original question.
KM: Okay. I think the most important issue is how the world sees us. This bothers me, and I would first start by bringing all of our soldiers home from around the world. What if every country we have troops in wanted to build bases in our country? We wouldn't want that, and they don't want us there either. Bring them all home.
TL: I don't know. The food at the French bases might be pretty good. Let everyone else eat "Freedom Fries;" I'll take a good Coquilles St. Jacques any day.
KM: Doh! (My Homer Simpson impression.) I don't know what kind of fancy food you eat. I only eat kielbasa.
TL: There you go with the funniness again.
KM: Next, I would give them (armed service personnel) all a collection of Jennifer Love Hewitt posters for their sacrifice.
TL: Hmm. I have this feeling you just might have enough Jennifer Love Hewitt posters for all of our armed forces. We might get our troops to go for it--provided they're SIGNED posters. (Signed by Jennifer Love Hewitt, that is. No offense, but getting a Jennifer Love Hewitt poster with Ken Miller's signature on it would be a little creepy.)
KM: I actually only have three posters of her. Besides that, I would never give up my personal collection of posters. We have become so close.
TL: So what will be your first official act as President? (Make that your first official act having nothing to do with Jennifer Love Hewitt.)
KM: My first official act is to prove to the world that the U.S. never really did land on the moon. George Jr. proved this in his speech recently by saying we are returning to the moon. As you know, politicians always say the opposite of what they mean, so what he really meant was: we are finally going to the moon.
TL: Maybe President Bush was speaking in code. Perhaps "moon" could really be "Crawford, Texas." Thoughts?
KM: No, it was not filmed in George's Back yard. It was filmed in Area 51--everyone knows that.
TL: Okay, okay, I might buy that we, as a country, have never been to the moon. But you can't convince me that Dennis Kucinich has never been there. I think he's had a base on the moon for a long time.
KM: Who the hell is Dennis Kucinich?
TL: Not important. Keep going.
KM: After that, I will declare that the Vice President has to live in the White House. (See my answer to the first question for the reason.)
TL: Riiiight. "Live" in the White House. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, touch of the elbow. But what if Ms. Love Hewitt is unable to continue her duties as VP at some point, and the Speaker of the House has to take over? How would you feel about "living" with Dennis Hastert?
KM: Who the hell is Dennis Hastert? Are you smoking something and making up imaginary people? If Love had to resign, I would simply appoint Krista Allen. Situation resolved!
TL: So what are you planning to do to set yourself apart from the traditional two-party candidates?
KM: I am going to use my Jedi mind powers to get them to make asses of themselves. Then I will follow up with a sure thing: I will release a video tape of me and Jennifer Love Hewitt going at it in night vision mode at a cheap Hilton hotel for publicity. Then, when I am making my public apology, I will expose her bare shoulder "accidentally".
TL: Wow, that's like, three recent pop culture references in one answer. I think you may be way too hip to be President. Fuh shizzle.
KM: Hang ten dude. I hope this sets me apart from other candidates and I can sway some of your votes.
TL: It certainly sets you apart. Any web sites or other links you want me to send folks to? Any parting thoughts?
KM: I wish I had the time to build my own site, but I will let you in on a little secret: www.lovehewitt.com and www.stuffonline.com are the only two sites I've been to this year.
Stay tuned for the next edition of the "Dark Horse Dialogues," posting Friday, February 13, 2004 at www.tlhines.com/darkhorse/.